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From: Jimmy
Email: <a@b.com>
Posted on: Sunday, April 04, 2004, 11:03 PM
Moved the messages to clear some space in the cgi bin.
From: Jimmy
Email: <a@b.com>
Posted on: Saturday, April 10, 2004, 02:50 AM
In case any of you are wondering what a cgi bin is let me explain......its a big giant bin kept at British Telecoms offices where all the guesbook messages are kept. When you click the button to come here the wee men grab all the messages and assemble them here in the right order. The Broadband page is created from a different room where the wee men can run faster and have jump boots to assist so the page appears almost instant. So now you know..............
From: Jimmy
Email: <a@b.com>
Posted on: Saturday, April 17, 2004, 03:14 AM
Theres a new album being made as far as I can tell........certain persons have been visiting certain locations and laying down certain sound. Thats for certain! Sweet Deceit is being reissued and has been re recorded but the word "reissue" is being used in the plural was an "s" at the end so something else is being reissued too! Still nothing positive or certain but certainly rumblings in the wind!
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Sunday, April 18, 2004, 11:34 AM
About bloody time too !!!!
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Friday, April 23, 2004, 08:58 AM
Certain Persons and certain sounds hmmm......that'll be the sound of loss , longing , heartbreak and joy on the rainy , windswept streets of European cities then eh ? I certainly hope so !
From: Mon
Email: <nospam>
Posted on: Monday, May 10, 2004, 11:00 PM
Hi there. I have recently contacted yet another local promoter who has recently brought to Santiago, the city where I live, bands like The Jayhawks (really superb ), Cracker (just fine this time) or more recently Arthur Lee and he said he would like to bring bands like The Bathers as long as they have some support from the record company. To be honest I do not know which record company is going to release the reissues or the new album. I haven't asked Chris either. Any ideas? Definitely not Wrasse? Maybe a major?
All the best to the faithful.
From: Jimmy
Email: <a@b.com>
Posted on: Friday, May 14, 2004, 02:34 AM
Do you want the whistling boys to return............not sure I`m allowed to tell you this so I wont ask and that way I wont get refused.....I`ll just tell you........James Grant and CGT have met up again for the 1st time since 1996 and JG has agreed to do his parts in the reissue of SD. Now I am thinking......surely the reissue has to be promoted so does this mean there will be gigs featuring the SD album and theres now a perfect excuse for JG to at least "guest" at any shows? Who knows.......I dont I assure you ...... I just wonder?
From: Jimmy
Email: <a@b.com>
Posted on: Tuesday, May 18, 2004, 08:52 AM
I have a DVD of The Bathers on Scottish tv for sale at £12 UK or £15 rest of the world. It is encoded to the PAL standard .....if anyone wants an NTSC version let me know and I will consider it. You must ensure that your DVD player will play DVD +R but failing that the DVD is playable on any PC with dvd software installed. This is the full show including the interview sequences that were edited from the VCD version. Any questions please use the CONTACT button on the main page of the website.
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Sunday, May 23, 2004, 06:58 PM
Fair play to you Jimmy you're about the only one keeping the flame alive.What we really want though is the live footage from The Garage with Liz Fraser guesting.Have you even seen it? It truly is the Holy Grail for Bathers fans........
From: Jimmy
Email: <a@b.com>
Posted on: Sunday, May 23, 2004, 11:18 PM
Have I seen it?? Hmmm I thought you knew stevie that it was me who done ALL the video stuff including the garage. I will get round to doing it though but I have to say that there does not seem to be much interest at all in video material and thats the main reason I am dragging my heels over it! The footage was great but its like a jigsaw puzzle as it wasn`t directed and with the mayhem of the gig in terms of crowds its not all perfect but I will try it at some point.
From: craig
Email: <cminerds@tile.com.au>
Posted on: Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 10:22 AM
hello there - tell me more about the bathers dvd where
how - how much - am a big fan
adelaide - south australia
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Thursday, June 10, 2004, 01:40 AM
OK I have reinstated the OTHER CDS section due to a sudden flurry of enquirees and the DVD has been included on the page. Just click OTHER CDS from the main index page.
From: mark
Email: <mark.blackmore@virgin.net>
Posted on: Monday, June 14, 2004, 02:20 PM
any chance of a track listing for the new DVD
Mark
From: melanoma
Email: <francesfarmer@hotmail.com>
Posted on: Monday, June 14, 2004, 03:43 PM
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Monday, June 14, 2004, 05:14 PM
Well spotted mark! I have now put the track listing on the OTHER CDS page! It also contains a few interview segments as well as the live songs! Its a shame because they also broadcast another track later which I didnt get.....I think it was "If love could last" which was edited out of the original broadcast!
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Monday, June 14, 2004, 07:07 PM
Many moons ago in my Great Big Rock Discography i noticed that my two fave Bowie songs had been released as a single in the US only (Rebel Rebel / Lady Grinning Soul).Interesting.Then, reading reviews of the reissued Diamond Dogs album i learned that it was actaully a diffrent version of Rebel so went and spunked £14 only to find that its a shit one , not as good as the version we know and love....
Im pretty cheesed off.
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Tuesday, June 15, 2004, 01:38 AM
Is it the modern one with the slow start....yes its pretty naff isnt it! By the way in case you are unaware your email addy is over quota.......when I sent out the group message about the DVD yours bounced back! A few people have also changed their emaill so if you are one of them and you didnt get the e mail about the DVD and you want to be on the mailing list you can drop me an email. You can use the CONTACT page to email me!!!!
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Tuesday, June 15, 2004, 03:49 PM
No Jimmy it's a version he did in '74 whilst over in NY.I guess that either he or the record company thought that the original was too long (4:30) or too rough for radio so he shortened it and smoothed it out a bit.Not his finest hour!! PS my E-mail is back to normal now (or should be).
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Tuesday, June 15, 2004, 04:44 PM
Stevie.....the rebel rebel single was different from the mix on the album so are you saying this is a THIRD version or are you just hearing the "single" mix for the first time?
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Wednesday, June 16, 2004, 07:10 PM
Yep.According to the sleevenotes , this (3rd) version was a single in america only.Go to Amazon Jimmy and click on the 30th anniversary edition of the album then scroll down to the tracklisting and you'll see it :Disc 2 , Track 2.
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Friday, June 18, 2004, 07:03 PM
I had a sort of Happy/Sad feeling today when i noticed in the paper that James Grant is playing the Cottier Theatre soon.Happy cos hes good and i may well go to see him but sad cos that's where i last saw my beloved Bathers and they were superb and it all seems so long ago ! Where is the beauty.......
Hey Jimmy , don't suppose youve got the Love and Money album Dogs In The Traffic on CD have ye ? If so i'd really love a copy as you can't get it now and my vinyl copy is well Knackered.Its a really cool album (man).
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Saturday, June 19, 2004, 03:03 AM
I dont know that album Stevie as I am not a big JG fan at all. I heard his last album though...the one with the poetry which I thought was BRILLIANT. He plays the Cottier the same night as TELEVISION so I`ll be going to that. I saw Kathyrn Williams there last Saturday and she was absolutely superb....what an atmosphere....reminded me of leonard cohen atmosphere!
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Friday, July 16, 2004, 11:20 PM
Original Sweet Deceit CD on sale on e bay right now........6 days to go....seller in Germany.
From: Lutzy
Email: <andrew.lutwyche@directline.com>
Posted on: Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 12:48 PM
Just discovered the site. Brilliant.
Any news on any new material ?
And which of the unofficial CD's would anyone reccomend - bearing in mind my favourite period bathers is Lagoon Blues through to Kelvingrove Baby. Although i'm not knocking the rest - those thre albums though were extra special :-)
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Wednesday, August 04, 2004, 10:35 AM
Allright mate , welcome to our world , there's not many of us in it tho ! Best unofficial CD that ive got is the one with all the demos and unreleased stuff from The Pandemonia Sessions.Not your favroute era but a brilliant insight into Work-in-progress.Have to say that Jimmys done a great job on all the ones ive bought (4 or 5 in total) and you cant really go wrong.........
From: mark milligan
Email: <markysparky17177@yahoo.co.uk>
Posted on: Friday, August 27, 2004, 07:20 PM
Been into this since sweet deceit.Hope for some news soon
From: Jimmy
Email: <a@b.com>
Posted on: Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 01:34 PM
Giuseppe........your email address is invalid
From: Gracefruit
Posted on: Wednesday, September 01, 2004, 04:04 PM
Hi there! I see that there is still sth going on.
I was just reminded of "The Dutch Venus" by a funny incident, so I visit this site again after some time. All the best from the depths of Germany.
Chris
From: Mon
Email: <nospamthankyou>
Posted on: Monday, September 06, 2004, 05:46 PM
There's a Bloomsday cd for sale in eBay at the moment just in case anybody is interested. In my opinion it is more than interesting.
BLOOMSDAY Fortuny CD BATHERS LLOYD COLE item number: 4034073769
From: maria
Email: <baili@trainingcentrenbg.gr>
Posted on: Tuesday, September 21, 2004, 11:48 AM
Your music touches my soul
You're fantastic
From: Mon
Posted on: Friday, October 15, 2004, 12:25 AM
Nine hours before auction ends a Sweet Deceit cd has reached a stunning 30 pounds price. The record is worth that money and more but this is another good example of how obsessed and haunted by melodies we can get. By the way, my next poetry book in Galician is going to be titled 12, after a Bathers song. The Galician for 12 is "Doce" and it coincides with the Galician for "Sweet". As always thank you Jimmy for keep it going.
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Monday, October 18, 2004, 07:03 PM
If the CD of Sweet Deceit is worth £30 then how much would i get for my Mint condition vinyl version with its beautiful printed labels and pristine lyric sheet, (i'd sooner sell my soul !),they don't make 'em like that anymore.I've also got the CD and it's signed by Chris Thomson so i'm entitled to be smug , yours for a measly 2 million quid.Even then,be assured,i'd have to think about it.Also , while i'm here , get the latest discs by The Blue Nile (High) and James Grant (Holy Love) if you have a soul.I love both but i'm so sad that Chris isn't making music like this anymore (or if he is we're not getting to here it , a tragedy).
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Monday, October 18, 2004, 07:06 PM
Ps can't believe I wrote "here" instead of "hear".I'm not thick , honest !
From: Mon
Posted on: Monday, October 18, 2004, 10:30 PM
Yesterday another Sweet Deceit cd sold for 25 euros. I also have both the original cd and the vinyl, this one given to me as a present by Margarita Vázquez Ponte, drum player and singer with Jesse Garon & The Desperadoes and record seller at Avalanche Records in Edinburgh where I met her and funnily discovered that her family comes from 34 km away from the place where I live. Of course I would never get rid of that beautiful vinyl. Although I normally listen to the cd as the vinyl is really worn out, the 12 incher is like a fetish to me. A true buried treasure for those who don't know it.
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Saturday, October 23, 2004, 07:14 PM
Always nice to hear from someone with a fetish for 12 inchers Mon , although i'm thankful that my wife doesn't have such high aspirations ! I read today about the List Magazines poll to find the Greatest Ever Scottish Rock/Pop acts and i'm sad to say that The Bathers aren't even in the Top 50 nominees....Philistines ! I'm boycotting it now.........
From: Munroe
Email: <munroe12345@hotmail.com>
Posted on: Thursday, November 04, 2004, 08:59 PM
I've just typed in www.thebathers.com and I get a message saying 'This site is under construction, you are now being directed to the current bathers site'.
Is somthing going on with a new 'official' site, or has this been like this for a while?
Other than that..... any news??
Munroe
From: rainey@freeuk.com
Email: <Paul>
Posted on: Monday, November 08, 2004, 03:52 AM
It could be because this site is closing. Someone told me this site was closing at the end of the year so maybe we are getting a new one. Anyone heard anything about a new cd?
From: Mark
Email: <drmjb@hotmail.com>
Posted on: Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 04:52 PM
Posted on: Saturday, April 17, 2004, Theres a new album being made as far as I can tell........certain persons have been visiting certain locations and laying down certain sound. Thats for certain! Sweet Deceit is being reissued and has been re recorded but the word "reissue" is being used in the plural was an "s" at the end so something else is being reissued too! Still nothing positive or certain but certainly rumblings in the wind!
Someone MUST know something.........?@!*!!!**?
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Saturday, November 13, 2004, 04:54 AM
CGT has been working with Neil Clarke from the Commotions and has done some tracks and may be doing an album. A Bloomsday gig would be the next best thing to a Bathers gig! Man they rocked! But then again maybe they will not be recording as Bloomsday at all and will create a brand new band. Maybe they should call themselves "The Brand New Band" !!! Why do I feel as though I`ll never sleep.............
From: Mark
Email: <drmjb@hotmail.com>
Posted on: Saturday, November 13, 2004, 05:17 PM
Getting excited now........Any Bloomsday live recordings then.....????
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Sunday, November 14, 2004, 03:59 AM
If bloomsday play live I`ll even dust off the old video cameras for that if cgt lets me!
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Saturday, November 20, 2004, 07:34 PM
Ok so a Bloomsday gig would be cool but only 'cos we're desperate for any crumb from the table....
Fact is , i saw Bloomsday once at Strathclyde Uni and it was good but the highlight was when Chris sat at the piano and sang three Bathers songs,the Bloomsday songs just couldn't compare. I still have a soft spot for Night Storm though.A Hundred Bonus Bathers Points for anyone (bar Jimmy!) who knows where that can be found.....
From: michael
Email: <micvee@localnet.com>
Posted on: Saturday, November 20, 2004, 10:35 PM
just recently found out the beauty of the bathers music. for the past few days it been 'sweet deceit', an album that sounds like it could have gone in a number of ways, though all beautiful. just how readily available is the bloomsday album? and how does it compare to the bathers sound?
From: Ainsley and mad chels
Posted on: Wednesday, December 01, 2004, 08:43 PM
mad squad
From: Jimmy
Email: <a@b.com>
Posted on: Thursday, December 02, 2004, 05:09 PM
Oi.............I resemble that remark!
From: michael
Email: <micvee@localnet.com>
Posted on: Friday, December 03, 2004, 07:05 PM
rainsound.net has a small article saying the new bathers album is expected in spring 2005. here we go. http://www.rainsound.net/news/2004_11_27_bathers.htm
From: Jimmy
Email: <a@b.com>
Posted on: Saturday, December 04, 2004, 01:12 AM
Nice that he gave the info to another site rather than to the idiot thats been running this one and trying to keep it all going though five years of nothing! Real nice eh! More reason than ever to throw the towel in methinks.
From: michael
Email: <micvee@localnet.com>
Posted on: Saturday, December 04, 2004, 07:47 PM
jimmy, don't say those things. i only recently found your site and have found it very helpful. i think from looking at the previous posts, the news on rainsound doesn't come as a surprise, besides the fact it is quite vague to begin with. keep on.
From: Jimmy
Email: <avmaster@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Friday, December 17, 2004, 03:58 AM
Merry xmas to anyone left out there who still checks out this guestbook. I have been working on a dvd of the cottier 96 and I may release it early in 2005 so watch this space..........both of you! Listening to moby right now...............and thinking about all the people at the top of the circus ;o)
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Friday, December 17, 2004, 06:41 PM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too Jimmy and anyone else out there in Bathersville . I gave up on Santa a long time ago but i still believe in Chris Thomson............Just about !
From: Mon
Posted on: Saturday, December 18, 2004, 10:09 PM
Merry CHRIStmas to everyone on The Bathers front and a very special thank you and all the best to Jimmy. I think we all owe him something. I am sure that 2005 is going to be quite -not quiet- a year for all of us Bathers followers, faithful, supporters...so a very happy 2005 to everyone as well. Bon Nadal e feliz aninovo.
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Thursday, December 30, 2004, 06:41 AM
..........why do I feel as though I`ll never sleep..................
From: michael
Email: <micvee@localnet.com>
Posted on: Thursday, December 30, 2004, 03:11 PM
any thoughts on this:
'You knew my little wing"
don't really understand.
oh, happy holidays...
From: IcedT
Email: <Ice@here.com>
Posted on: Sunday, January 02, 2005, 04:27 PM
http://www.jimmysmith.btinternet.co.uk/paypal.html <-- it's illegal to surcharge for PayPal...
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Sunday, January 02, 2005, 07:30 PM
Only for international customers so your accusation is wrong! You should also be aware that posting here under a false or blank email address might hide you from the others but it doesnt hide you from me! Away back and play with the kangaroos son!
From: faye
Email: <faye.mckay@btopenworld.com>
Posted on: Monday, January 03, 2005, 05:14 PM
Happy New Year to all Bathers fans. Fingers and toes crossed for any new material and tour in 2005. Would give my right arm to see them again.
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Friday, January 07, 2005, 09:30 PM
Someone made a large order for cds which means I have a limited amount of materials if anyone wants anything. I only have enough for about 10 cds so you have to be quick! The links to the cd ordering are working again temporarily until I run out again.
From: Matthew
Email: <finnrem@yahoo.co.uk>
Posted on: Thursday, January 13, 2005, 09:42 PM
Hi everyone,
I have a couple of items for sale, if anyone is interested email me offlist.
They are Friends Again - Trapped and unwrapped on vinyl, cat no 8368951, and Bloomsday - Fortuny on CD, cat no cid9972.
First decent offer gets!!!
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Friday, January 14, 2005, 10:42 PM
Mathew....Bathers items seem to do quite well on ebay...a few things recently have gone for high prices......including Sunpowder which went for a higher price than it is STILL officially available for!
From: Michael
Email: <micvee@localnet.com>
Posted on: Saturday, January 15, 2005, 06:20 PM
i wish you would have posted that message about the friends again LP sooner, as i've just picked it up for a pretty good price i reckon...i've noticed too how well the bathers items go on ebay, i'll be dammed if i can find 'lagoon blues' for a reasonable price. if anyone spots one, leave a note. it may be even harder to find than 'sweet deceit'.
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Thursday, January 20, 2005, 02:10 PM
I know what you mean....this guy wants 38 squid for it!!! http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/detail/offer-listing/-/B0000088D2/all/026-7308255-7617213
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Monday, January 24, 2005, 11:14 AM
When i think of all the listening pleasure that it's given me over the years Jimmy.........I would GLADLY pay double that for a copy if i lost mine. It's a work of Art , one of the greatest albums ever recorded and priceless.Shit , the master tapes should be behind glass in the British Museum.
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Monday, January 24, 2005, 11:20 AM
On further reflection , my copy has been signed on the page with the lyrics for Sweetheart Sessions by the man himself so it's actually more than priceless....we'll have to invent a new word for that. Erm.... Beyond priceles = Briceless !! That's it , it's a Briceless work of Art.
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Tuesday, January 25, 2005, 02:26 AM
Stevie....you`ve been eating too many ricicles!
From: Michael
Email: <micvee@localnet.com>
Posted on: Wednesday, January 26, 2005, 01:48 PM
something is wrong with the site. i was lucky enough to get here. i needed to post a message regarding the friends again LP i just received. for some reason, side 2 omits the songs: honey at the core and south of love, and replaces them with vaguely yours and lullaby #2. i thought i was going crazy, hearing the same songs on side 2. even though the songs are listed on the back cover and the lyric sheet, they are still not on there. does anyone else have this problem? what is going on here? i thi9nk old flame is out of order too and sunkissed is a different version than the single...
From: Gordon Fong
Email: <gordon>
Posted on: Friday, January 28, 2005, 09:48 AM
Regarding the Friends Again LP tracks:
Yes I had the same problem with my vinyl LP. It must have been a bad batch I guess. I kept that one as it was pretty rare, but at the same time I gave someone my proper LP seeing as I had the CD version. They then lost it which was annoying! Wont be doing that again.
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Wednesday, February 09, 2005, 04:12 AM
I made a mistake recently and lost the front page! So the main index page right now is an old one and I know there is an error on the "lyrics" button. I WILL fix it at some point!!!!!! The disolve effect is back and I never even knew it was gone till I seen it back again! What a bonus eh? ;o) Really into Ian Brown`s "music of the spheres" just now.
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Saturday, February 12, 2005, 07:45 PM
Nice wee mention for Chris Thomson in todays Daily Record.....did you see it Jimmy ?
Nice to see that the flame still burns somewhere and that someone (columnist John McKie) is keeping the faith.
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Saturday, February 12, 2005, 08:52 PM
Stevie...no I didnt see it so thanks for saying I will now look for it. This will be the start as the big cheese himself told me yesterday the new album was 6 weeks away.........
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Sunday, February 13, 2005, 12:08 PM
Can you tell us if this means it's six weeks away from being finished or six weeks away from release (big difference!).Anyway , lets hope it's the latter so that we can look forward to some much awaited live dates , i hear that Oran Mor in the West End is good maybe he should do something like play there for a month of Saturdays or.....something!
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Monday, February 14, 2005, 06:43 PM
Probably means that in 6 weeks time he`ll sit down and have a really good think about a new album!!!
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Saturday, February 19, 2005, 07:30 PM
In A Just And Fair World (Part 1) :Obviously i don't know what Chris Thomson will be doing tonight. I'd like to imagine he's cutting a dash round the West End , all suave and elegantly wasted. He's getting on in years tho' so he'll probably be having a quiet night in.However , in a just and fair world he'd be performing a headline set at the SECC where , apparently , the "cream of Scots talent" will be doing a Tsunami Benefit .Good cause but funny , i didn't see The Bathers or The Blue Nile on the bill........
As for myself i'll be sitting at home with the wife , sipping Manhattens and watching Wings Of Desire.....ah life ! such a beautiful poison.....
From: michael
Email: <micvee@localnet.com>
Posted on: Saturday, February 26, 2005, 03:16 PM
i was just wondering, for those who have the twenty-two single, is the track 'raphaela' a cover of a louis philippe tune of the same name?
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Monday, February 28, 2005, 04:43 AM
"my cat I called him Mac"...........Mac has recently died after a long innings. I am sure Chris & family will miss him dearly.....he`ll never have to struggle on without milk again. R.I.P.
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Tuesday, March 01, 2005, 09:05 PM
Grab yourself a bargain? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4705859462&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Wednesday, March 02, 2005, 12:31 PM
On an off topic theme.....if anyone in the Glasgow area needs a pc built or are looking for spares, upgrades, etc give me a shout as I`ve been building sytems a few years now and can do all sorts of jobs at reasonable rates.
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Saturday, March 12, 2005, 07:48 PM
Tonight i think the wife and i will open a nice bottle of Red and listen to a bit of Scott Walker singing Jacques Brel,on vinyl naturally (we're not philistines!).
When she gets tipsy and heads up to bed i'll try to eke out some more of my novel , Everything Beautiful Is Far Away.Watch out for it , should be ready in about 9 years or so ............
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Saturday, March 12, 2005, 09:01 PM
9 years? Aha I see your plan...its to coincide with the next Bathers album then?
From: nando budetta
Email: <nandobud@tin.it>
Posted on: Sunday, March 13, 2005, 10:36 AM
I'm from Italy and I have been listening to your fantastic music since the sweet deceit album. I love you.
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Monday, March 14, 2005, 06:35 PM
Hi Nando , nice to have you onboard.You don't have to be mad to post here just very , very patient......
And yes Jimmy you're spot on , thats the plan.You wait forever for a work of exquisite beauty then two come along at once.......
From: Michael
Email: <micvee@localnet.com>
Posted on: Sunday, March 20, 2005, 11:44 PM
it seems universal re-released 'sweet deceit'. everyone might want to look into this because i'm sure this comes as a surprise to most of you, maybe even chris. here's a link:http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/detail/offer-listing/-/B000091FKJ/all/202-3659288-3584665
From: Chris Thomson
Email: <on request>
Posted on: Tuesday, March 22, 2005, 11:20 PM
pretty certain that there is no such reissue...but there is no particular reason that they would let me know...
SD2 will be along shortly though. Jimmy heard a rough of this and it seemed to pass muster. He can be a tough critic...
new album SOON!!
From:
Posted on: Wednesday, March 23, 2005, 07:57 AM
From: martin
Email: <martysterio@hotmail.com>
Posted on: Wednesday, March 23, 2005, 08:24 AM
Hey everyone....thought it had all gone quiet....I didnt realise the group discussions were continuing on the guest book.....apologies for not contributing earlier and more often!
Yes looking forward to hearing some new delights from Chris....finally.....and Jimmy.....I know this is said occasionally..but keep up the fine work man...we all really appreciate the work that you do...and all the heads up on whats happening!!!!
Not a night goes by whilst strumming my guitar a Bathers song does not grace my finger tips!
Any news on any gigs........
From: Stephen
Email: <stephen.barnes@macquarie.com>
Posted on: Wednesday, March 23, 2005, 11:45 AM
I just want to see the message...
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Thursday, March 24, 2005, 02:44 AM
It was probably Martin doing a "does thing really work and I am doing it right" message!!! If theres a new album coming then it follows that there will be gigs to promote it. At least thats what normal bands do :o)
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Tuesday, March 29, 2005, 03:50 PM
Anyone else into Roddy Frames album" Surf "? I got into it a while back and it's a little beauty , full of stripped down acoustic magic and glorious songs. Check it out folks.......
From: Munroe
Email: <munroe12345@hotmail.com>
Posted on: Thursday, March 31, 2005, 04:40 PM
Hi folks, I took the plunge and bought 'Sweet Deceit' from Amazon... and it arrived today. The CD is from Universal / Island label. It is copyrighted 2004. It appears the CD's are cut 'to order' from www.cdmusicarchive.com (where they can be ordered from). The CD is supposed to have a data section with original artwork/tracklist etc.... mine has artwork from an ABC album! Ho Humm.
Excellent album, good preparation for the new CD!
Munroe
From: michael
Email: <micvee@localnet.com>
Posted on: Monday, April 04, 2005, 08:33 PM
i tried the link and it turns out they are selling copies of sweet deceit. jimmy, could you shed any light on SD2? would you call it a carbon copy, or something totally different and new? after about 6 months of searching, i still can't find 'lagoon blues', how many did marina print up anyway? LB2 anyone?
From:
Posted on: Monday, April 04, 2005, 09:28 PM
Michael, the Sweet Deceit CD for sale on Amazon is not an unofficial copy. It is simply a copy 'made to order' (ie produced when someone requests one) at the Universal web site www.cdmusicarchive.com - hence the low production standards.
BTW, Sweet Deceit is excellent!!!!!!
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Tuesday, April 05, 2005, 02:53 AM
From what I can gather it`s a legitimate operation but one of the readers on here emailed me privately and he was CONVINCED he had bought a bootleg. It was on an unlabelled 48x CDR and he said there were spelling mistakes and that the artwork "resembled" the original but was extremely poor quality. So you`ll all be rushing to get one eh? SD2 is a completely re-recorded version and from what I heard it sounds stunning! As for LB2 I seem to remember a long time ago CGT said his "next album" would be in the vein of LB so maybe we`ll get a LB2 after all.
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Tuesday, April 05, 2005, 08:43 AM
I'm getting confused now Jimmy. I had got the idea that SD2 was a completely new album but called that because the songs were in a similar vein , but are you saying that its new versions of the same songs ?
If so it'll be interesting to hear but i can't say i'll be holding my breath.....CGT did this already for the compilation and the results were underwhelming surely?I'll still buy it though. And if this is the case whens the new album (of NEW songs) due out and on what label are these releases? C'mon Jimmy or Chris this needs clearing up.....
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Tuesday, April 05, 2005, 08:51 AM
Also , since i last saw the band (Cottier ) i've got two mates into them and we're all dying for live shows.Jeez , how long does it take to knock out some songs on a piano/acoustic guitar anyway?The results would probably be just as good as the studio stuff (i've heard some superb "demos") and cost less.Chris , fire out a lo-fi album once every 18 months or so , get youself on a roll man..... Voice , piano, bit of acoustic and some CELLO.....
From: michael
Email: <micvee@localnet.com>
Posted on: Tuesday, April 05, 2005, 01:30 PM
i finally see. the seller on amazon should have made this clear. good thing i have a vinyl copy as the sound is incredible. those sustained piano notes on 'idyll off crown circus'...
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Wednesday, April 06, 2005, 01:09 AM
There is TWO albums coming out. One is a brand new album with brand new songs and like I said I remember chris saying it will be in the vein of Lagoon. That was a long time ago though and so it may not be anything like LB I have no idea. I have been told nothing and I havent heard a single note of it. See next message...........
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Wednesday, April 06, 2005, 01:14 AM
The other album coming out which is named SD2 by us/chris is in fact a re recording of the whole album. So YES it is all the same songs re recorded. I didnt like the Best of either and I thought the only good tracks were Thrive and If love could last but I like SD2.
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Wednesday, April 06, 2005, 01:19 AM
Totally agree that the vinyl of Sweet Dceit sounds superb and I still have an unplayed copy which CGT gave me years ago. On saying that though almost ALL vinyl sounds better than any digital format. You can "feel" the sound not just hear it!
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Wednesday, April 06, 2005, 08:25 AM
Hear , Hear Jimmy !!
Here's my Top Five Albums that sound better on vinyl :
1.Rain Dogs by Tom Waits
2.The Trinity Sessions by Cowboy Junkies
3.Nebraska by Bruce Springsteen
4.The Best Of Scott Walker
5.Astral Weeks by Van Morrison
From: Hintry
Email: <Hintry@hotmail.com>
Posted on: Thursday, April 07, 2005, 10:21 AM
For me, Sweet Deceit is the easily the greatest album of all time. I love its edginess and raw passion, with Chris yelping and growling like a wild man. Its slightly reminiscent of early Elvis (circa Sun Sessions). I'm concerned that SD2 will overly polished and hence diluted. Like Stephen, I'd also prefer Chris to go lo-fi.
From:
Posted on: Thursday, April 07, 2005, 03:21 PM
From: michael
Email: <micvee@localnet.com>
Posted on: Monday, April 11, 2005, 07:43 PM
here's something i've just noticed. some of you may have spoken about this years ago but the resemblence between 'time regained' and blue nile 'headlights on the parade' is uncanny. royalties anyone?
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Tuesday, April 12, 2005, 08:45 AM
I wonder where the Bathers would be if they had the funds and publicity that LINN generated for the Blue Vile!!!
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Wednesday, April 13, 2005, 09:20 AM
Steady on Jimmy ! That's too cheeky. The funds and publicity can only get you so far but you've got to have the songs/talent to back it up. The Blue Nile had it in spades and Hats is one of the greatest albums ever made , up there with Astral Weeks , Rain Dogs and Lagoon Blues . So get it up ye !!
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Wednesday, April 13, 2005, 10:00 AM
This is one area where we fail to agree Stevie. My own opinion of the Blue Nile is that they bring out albums with one......maybe two good songs and the rest is really mediocre crap. On the 1st you had tinsel town and on the 2nd you had "lets go out tonight" (or whatever its called) ...after that I didnt even listen to anymore. And then theres CGT who brings out albums choc full of beautiful songs and gets nowhere. Publicity is EVERYTHING ......christ look how the Wets went on and on year after year on ONE album and when it came time for the 2nd they......re recorded the first one!!!! Thats a classic example of clever managemnt on NO MATERIAL. If they hadnt had LINN`s money they would be about as famous as Tinderstix!
From: michael
Email: <micvee@localnet.com>
Posted on: Wednesday, April 13, 2005, 03:07 PM
i do like the blue nile, but the way they go about recording an album every 8 years, you would think there would be no question about each albums' merits. i understand your point as i'm sure stephen does. cgt is a far more talented artist, is fairly consistent with his releases, and yet he goes unnoticed. what are wets? i didn't catch that point.
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Wednesday, April 13, 2005, 07:10 PM
Wets is WET WET WET a Scottish band.
From: Hintry
Email: <Hintry@hotmail.com>
Posted on: Wednesday, April 13, 2005, 08:46 PM
I feel The Bathers have been mining the same creative vein for too long now, effectively making the same album over and over. I would love to see Chris depart from the ol' tried and trusted formula and do something completely different - he unquestionably has the talent. I look at the variety in Bowie's catalog (Hunky Dory, Young Americans, Low, Station to Station, Scary Monsters) and wish Chris would take similar creative risks.
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Wednesday, April 13, 2005, 09:24 PM
Eh? He might sing about the same subject over & over but the albums are totally different to me. Unusual places is like Young Americans....Sweet Deceit is like a cross between a springsteen and waits album. Lagoon Blues is like a classical album with lyrics and is pretty damn unique. Sunpowder again reminds me of Bowie in that its like an album full of Lady Grinning Souls. Kelvingrove Baby is very commercial and almost Dylanesque. Pandemonia to me was pure crap with the exception of something precious but that wasnt written by chris. Then when you think of friends again...totally different again and the rockin Bloomsday which I wish there was more material of.........I cant say I agree that ANY of that "is in the same vein" ?
From: Hintry
Email: <Hintry@hotmail.com>
Posted on: Wednesday, April 13, 2005, 10:02 PM
At a stretch... I concede that Fortuny, Unusual Places and Trapped & Unwrapped are different, but Lagoon Blues, Sunpowder, Kelingrove and Pandemonia - like kissing cousins - are heavily related. For example, "Easter Sorbonne", "Night is Young", "Twelve" and "Supernatural" could all be from the same album.
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Thursday, April 14, 2005, 09:21 AM
I think we`ll just have to agree to disagree on that one he he
From: Stephen
Email: <stevie@bfcrescent.freeserve.co.uk>
Posted on: Thursday, April 14, 2005, 04:50 PM
Fair enough Jimmy , you don't like The Blue Nile , i'll live.
No way can you come out with the statement that Pandemonia is" pure crap" though. It may be , possibly , the worst Bathers effort but that still puts it way above most other bands/artists. it really grew on me baby.......
From: Munroe
Email: <munroe12345@hotmail.com>
Posted on: Thursday, April 14, 2005, 06:19 PM
Hmmmm, I must be missing a big point here, as I think Pandemonia is a great piece of music. Stuff like Deamless, Sundown and Longing, and The Belle Sisters create a wonderful mood. Mix in the Sleeper Fragments, and the title track...... pure class.
Anyone know an approximate timeframe for the release of SD2 and the new material..?
From: Jimmy
Email: <jimmysmith@btinternet.com>
Posted on: Thursday, April 14, 2005, 08:54 PM
I forgot about the Belle Sisters and agree that was a good track. The others though were songs that to me, didnt quite make it....I cant explain it only to say that dreamless and sundown sounded like they were going to be great but were somehow faulty. Yellow crombie on the Bathers Demos Vol 5 is superb although incohesive......if it had been done like that on the album......in fact I loved all the Pandemonia stuff on the outtakes much better than the album apart from the title song which I just dont like in any shape or form!